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I belong to 5 birding listservs (BIRDCHAT, Mobirds-l, KSBIRD-l, okbirds and 
Ia-Bird). I also belong to several poetry groups and get literary 
announcements from a bookstore where I read my poetry and from an 
institution in Kansas City called The Writer's Place. One friend, whom I 
have not dared discourage, forwards bad jokes to me almost daily. Another 
keeps sending me URLs about the world oil shortage. Then there are family 
members who keep me posted about their activities regularly. Put all those 
togther with the Nigerian scam e-mails, the folks who say I've won the 
lottery, the ones trying to sell me cheap Viagra or Cialis and the weekly 
newsletter of the Planned Giving Department of the Salvation Army, and I get 
about 130 e-mails a day.

I have learned to spot what I want to read quickly and to delete the rest, 
unread. If reading e-mails is burdensome, the burden is entirely 
self-imposed.

I don't read every birding listserv post. If a thread does not interest me, 
I delete all of the posts in that thread, unread. I read only about half of 
what comes in from BIRDCHAT, okbirds and IA-Bird. I read about two thirds of 
what comes in from the Missouri and Kansas listservs.

Insults and flame wars don't bother me at all. What gets me in trouble is 
the temptation to say nasty things myself. The only reason I might have to 
unsubscribe is that I have gotten myself so angry about something that it is 
bad for my heart condition to continue. In that event, what I miss is my 
loss, and losing it is my responsibility.  I can always return to the list 
when I calm down.

I don't care whether there is one Mobirds listserv or two or three. I'll 
probably subscribe to however many there are and try to figure out which 
content is appropriate for which. It won't take me long to discover which 
posts I want to read and which I want to delete.

As for chatting vs reporting rarities, I'm interested in some of both. 
Chatting is valuable when birding is slow. When the rarities are being 
reported thick and fast, the chatting slows down, anyway.

I also have a soft spot in my heart for folks who want to exclaim to the 
world that they have nuthatches at their feeders or that they just added 
Lesser Yellowlegs to the Life List. I was once there myself.

Good birding.

Bob Fisher
Independence, Missouri
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Easterla" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: Good Manners & Two/Three Listserves


> It seems time for a change (I hear you Patrick Harrison, and yes Doug, I
> agree it will happen again, it is predictable human ethology).
>  Mobirds needs two listserves-one for "chasers/listers", and another for
> a "chatroom".  For the PRESENT, rather than UNSUBSCRIBE, I will FIRST WAIT
> to see if Susan can set up the two listserves as mentioned above. 
> Comments
> regarding ANY PERSONAL VIEWPOINTS on how our feathered "relatives" should
> be appreciated, should be discouraged/banned from all listserves.
>  On second thought, a third, added listserve would be even more
> appropriate for those who do not chase or list rarities, but simply want 
> to
> discuss/mention the common/predicted species that are identified in their
> daily observation(s) at a feeder, backyard, trail, refuge, etc.  With such
> a breakdown, this would undoubtedly save time for many listservers who
> would then check only one listserve.  Perhaps we should not forget that
> this type of communication involving the ASM started many years ago
> under "Missouri Rare Bird Alert".
>
> David
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> Distinguished University Professor of Biology
> Northwest Missouri State University
> 800 University Drive
> Maryville, Missouri  64468
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