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I have Ravens in Winter and will gladly loan it.
June Newman
Carroll County MO
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On Sep 4, 2005, at 7:21 PM, Edge Wade wrote:

> I have Mind of the Raven and will gladly loan it.
>
> Edge Wade
> Columbia, MO
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> On Sunday, September 4, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Sherry McCowan wrote:
>
>> There's a short article In today's (9/4/05) New York Times Magazine  
>> about deceit and "mind reading" in animals.  The author reports an  
>> experiment (published last year in Animal Cognition) conducted by  
>> Thomas Bugnyar in which laboratory ravens were supposed "to find bits 
>>  of cheese hidden in film canisters, then pry open the lids to get 
>> the  food out."  The dominant raven, Munin, would steal food that 
>> Hugin  found.  Hugin's solution to the problem was to pretend to eat 
>> from an  empty cannister and then rush to a cannister that actually 
>> held food  while Munin investigated the empty one.  Bugnyar and Bernd 
>> Heinrich  (author of Ravens in Winter, Mind of the Raven, and Winter 
>> World)  have published another experiment on raven cognitive ability 
>> in The  Proceedings of the Royal Society.
>>
>> The two articles should each be a good read.
>>
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>> Sherry McCowan
>> Saint Louis, Missouri
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