I sympathize with your concern for quality, but I think one can have
more than one category.  I distinguish between poetry and pseudo-poetry,
and between good and bad poetry.  The Medieval ballads were also all
music, as was much of the poetry in Greek plays.  I don't see why that
is an exclusive category.

But I agree that rap is not a new form of poetry.  I think it is a new
kind of poetry in a long oral tradition.  Consider Linton Quasi Johnson
or Benjamin Zephaniah.  This British style is also music as well as

>>> [log in to unmask] 09/21/05 1:09 PM >>>
I'm sorry I just don't see how rap can be classed as
poetry.  it is MUSIC.  people have always listened to
bad music.  it does not, to me at least, point to a
new form of poetry, although I acknowledge that this
is just my opinion.

Beat poetry is an entirely different thing.


--- Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:42:08 -0400
> From: Eric <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Poetry at the End of Print Culture
> Just got a copy of this. I think you'll find it
> useful. Gioia has helped
> a lot by providmg a lot of evidence and leads. The
> writer does miss the
> retrieval of recitativo secco in rap and hip-hop and
> slam, but gets much
> else. Down we go into the "foul rag and bone shop"
> of the language. The
> logos lives.
> Enjoy.
> Eric
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