> Marcia Karp wrote:
> Like you, I believe there is a difference between wrote the poem and who didn't. I've yet to understand why it seems as if people discuss Eliot as if he is strange in being a poet who showed his work to other poets.
It's not "Eliot in general" that is the focus. It is one particular
poem, which underwent radical surgery, resulting in a poem which, thanks
to Eliot accepting that surgery, is a different poem, not just a more
polished or precise poem, from the original.
I doubt that anyone would say the same about 4Q even if we had available
all the "general criticism and specific suggestions" for which Eliot
acknowledges "a particular debt to Mr. John Hayward." Probably most
poets do look for and accept such help. Does the help Pound gave to TWL
go beyond that? Some of us believe so.