Don't forget that at roughly the same time he wrote a review of Stravinsky's RITES OF SPRING which employed a myrhical interpretation to explain S.'s EFFECT. P. Nancy Gish wrote: >The phrase "mythical method" is Eliot's from his review of Joyce's _Ulysses-, and HE meant the structure or myth as a unified backdrop for all the disparate material in a modern text. That was used as a template for then reading Eliot as doing the same by using Jesse Weston as Joyce used Homer. > >The problem then arose that Eliot actually did not follow Weston in the way Joyce followed Homer. So it has been a large topic. Weston is only incidental in TWL and then only in the final section except for a few lines or images that can be read through her or not. > >The last chapter of my book on TWL is entirely on the "mythical method," and although it was aimed a students and is now dated, I would stand by my argument that the method evacuates meaning as much as fills it because it shifts attention from what is, in fact, the immediate scene. > >In any case, the starting point needs to be Eliot's own definition--since he was quite precise about what he meant--and the way it was used by early scholars like Cleanth Brooks and Grover Smiith--and how those readings have been reconsidered. [Perhaps the most detailed example of it is an article by Bud McGrath, who extended the early versions extensively. But I think he would not read it the same way now. Nonetheless, it is a concentrated example of the way it was applied.] >Nancy > > > >>>>[log in to unmask] 11/28/04 10:47 PM >>> >>>> >>>> >So then, Mr. Parker, that means that Eliot doesn't mean to allude to the >myth for the sake of an example or something...but he uses the mythical >character as a character in TWL. That makes sense and that might prove >useful when I write my paper. > >Thanks, >Advait Praturi > > > >>From: "Rickard A. Parker" <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: "T. S. Eliot Discussion forum." <[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Eliot's Mythical Method >>Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:42:26 -0500 >> >>Advait Praturi wrote: >> >> >>>1. To what extent does Eliot implement myth into the Wasteland? >>> >>> >>I've grabbed what I think are some of the significant myths >> >> >>from TWL and listed them below. I've left out scripture, Dante > > >>and, for the most part, the English playwrights although I can >>see a point for classifying them as myths too. >> >>1) Sibyl >>2) Tristan and Isolde >>3) Hyacinth girl (Hyacinthus) >>4) Aeneid (via Laquearia) >>5) Philomel >>6) Parsifal >>7) Actaeon and Diana >>8) Tiresias >>9) Götterdämmerung >>10) Voice of the Thunder >>11) Philomel (Quando fiam uti chelidon) >>12) Orpheus >> >>What I see as odd here is the level of indirection employed. Eliot >>seems to allude to a work that brings up a myth about as much as to >>a myth itself. That is the case with 1, 2, 6, 7, 9, 11 and 12. I >>bet something interesting could be made of that. >> >>Regards, >> Rick Parker >> >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! >hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > >