From: "Carrol Cox" <[log in to unmask]> CC>A Chinese invention. PM>Tell that to Gutenberg. Did the Chinese invent printing or the press. CC>Also, a social construction such as "Western Civilization" does not really exist until it's _named_. PM>A straw-man given Vishevesh's original question. You might want to suggest an adjustment of her terminology, given the second-language situation, but under the circumcises, you are butchering rabbitts. P.