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Yes, well, time being what it was, I simply went straight to the significant details, assuming that most others would understand that I was speaking of the spiritual, not the political creation of the church. Henry VIII didn't add a fart to the context of the faith his defense of the sacraments not withstanding. I was however trying to reflect what Eliot was saying. If you choose to quibble, since you present yourself as the perennial quibbler, then perhaps you would like to take up the following points with Eliot himself: "The Church of England is the creation not of the reign of Henry VIII or of the reign of Edward VI, but of the reign of Elizabeth." E. then goes on to establish how that reign's style of "the via media" influenced the development of said church. He then goes on to say: "The intellectiuqal achievement and prose style of Hooker and Andrewes came to complete the structure of the English church....". So my memory was a bit off, and my time was limited, hence the spelling booboos. If I were always so careless, you might have cause to complain. You better not let me catch you. P. -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Formichelli To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 2004-Nov-07 6:24 PM Subject: The A B Cs of spelling: a reply to Peter Dear Peter, With all due respect, > As I remember it, he placed all his chips on Launcelot as the > founder/extablisher or > the Anglican Church. > P. > The correct spelling is Lancelot Andrewes, not Launcelot. Nor do I think Eliot would grudge Henry his crown, or Andrewes his bishops hat by even, by ever, implying that Andrewes (1555-1626) _founded or established_ the Anglican Church. I believe that honour correctly belongs to King Henry VIII, the instigator of the Reformation. What Eliot comments on in his essay 'Lancelot Andrewes' (1927) , which is different from the 1928 book, _For Lancelot Andrewes: Essays on Style and Order_, is Andrewes role in creating the language of Anglicanism. Andrewes was, Eliot notes, one of the great sermon writers; and more essentially, one of the translators of the King James Bible (1611). Incidentally, Eliot's epigraph to _For Lancelot Andrewes_ , is to my mind one of his most beautiful. Yours, Jennifer