Since the institution of the EU, I believe subject
status in Britain became a non-workable practice.

Being a citizen of the commonwealth given one a
somewhat easier rite of passage into other commonwealth

The monarch is considered the head of the commonwealth,
and always presides over the opening and closing of
official meetings of Commonwealth heads. The Commonwealth
has had some influence over the governance of it members,
through boycotts etc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Gray [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:38 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OT: Subject Status; Was, "Covers and Quiz (was:

I do not know about the rest of the Commonwealth,
however in Canada at least, everyone was a British
subject until a specific Canadian citizenship was set
up in 1947. After that people were both citizens of
the country and subjects of the sovereign until about
1980. At that date the Canadian parliament (which
means the ruling party) removed the British subject
status for all Canadian citizens and replaced it with
the status of 'citizen of the Commonwealth.'

No one has any idea what 'citizen of the Commonwealth'
means or  cares in any way. I doubt if one Canadian in
ten thousand knows that he/she has this status.

Being a British subject was presumably a
multi-national precursor to a world citizenship before
that idea became fashionable. Losing that status has
made Canadian citizenship more parochial.

--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
> I'm curious: how did this work before 1949?  Were
> some people subjects and other citizens, or was
> everyone but the monarch (and perhaps immediate
> family) subjects?  Or did it vary geographically, or
> on some other basis?  Don't know much about this,
> and I've wondered periodically without ever
> bothering to look it up.
> Tom K
> In a message dated 2/4/2004 6:03:02 PM Eastern
> Standard Time, Peter Montgomery
> <[log in to unmask]> writes:
> >I am under the vague imprssion that as of the
> >Council of Westminster of 1949, which more or less
> established
> >the Commonwealh, that subject status ceased, and
> everyone
> >became citizens. Not sure, but I think subject
> status has gone.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Peter
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Rickard A. Parker
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:32 PM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Covers and Quiz (was: Discussion)
> >
> >
> >"Rickard A. Parker" wrote:
> >>
> >> While searching I came upon a quiz that I will
> reword and give here:
> >> There are three Americans memorialized at Poet's
> Corner but not buried
> >> there.  One was always an American citizen and is
> buried in America.
> >> Two became British subjects and, of these, one's
> resting place is in
> >> England and the other's is in America.  Identify
> each.
> >
> >
> >Last night Rick Seddon sent me a private post.  He
> did some searching
> >and got the answer.  I'll not supply the answer for
> a bit longer though.
> >
> >Regards,
> >    Rick Parker
> >

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