There are many serious, ethical, and moral reasons for being in opposition to this or any government. On what do you base the assumption that it is some trivial (and pointless) opposition for its own sake? Do you think Henry David Thoreau or Martin Luther King or Sojourner Truth or Vietnam Veterans for Peace or The Supreme Court when it struck down sodomy laws were just in opposition for its own sake? People don't do that to waste time in trivial pursuit. Nancy On 2 Dec 2003, at 17:21, Kate Troy <[log in to unmask]> wrote: In a message dated 12/2/03 2:32:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: On November 19th, I listened to Garrison Keillor interviewing Lawrence Ferlinghetti on NPR's City Arts and Lectures program. At the end of the interview, Ferlinghetti's advice to young poets was to "remember that the poet must be in opposition to the State." To be in opposition to the Government just for the sake of being in opposition to the Government and is absurd, though some of members of this List certainly take that point of view. So, when FDR created the social security program, when JFK created the peace corps program, Ferlinghetti would have been writing poetry to reflect his opposition and displeasure, I suppose.