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Dear Peter, No can't come up with the goods. But I do have some vague association in my mind also. Even the latest accounts seem to tell the old story. Maternal grandmother (surname Junner) conceives out of wedlock probably to eldest son of her emoployer a Lawrence family not related to DH. The child of that union Sarah has TE to Thomas Lawrence who was actually the son of Sir Thomas Chapman Baronet but passed on the title in moving in with Sarah. You probably know DHL was well represented in TEL's library and Richard Aldington snipes at the little fella suggesting it must have galled him to have his father adopt the name of a major talent when he lacked same. Aldington also says TEL was one of Eliot's hollow men. So there you are not off topic entirely. I will keep an eye out anyway, but the notion seems fanciful except to the extent of those gene pool analyses which show the Celts are all proximate genetically and the Welsh in small numbers I guess most truely. As Richard Burton said "any fool can be Irish - there are only half a million Welsh". Cheers Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:18 AM Subject: Re: T.E. vs D.H. > No responses except yours, so far. > Thanks very much. If there is a clear, traceable > connection I would be very much interested. > Thanks again, > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Dillane [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 5:08 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: T.E. vs D.H. > > > I don't get to this machine often - has anyone run with this? I think I may > have seen something tangential to some other account suggesting this. One > of the recent TEL biographies has pursued his mother's background and > changed the story a bit. I will have to chase that if it is still of > interest to you - might take a day 'cause no books to hand. The old account > was that Sarah Lawrence was the illegitimate daughter of John Lawrence a > ship builder and of course as Peter O"Toole told us (in the same breathless > way he anticipated Gordon Liddy that the trick is not to care about pain) > the old man was Sir Thomas Chapman. "He wasn't married to my mother. > > Cheers Pete > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 10:49 AM > Subject: T.E. vs D.H. > > > > Somewhere along the line I heard, learned, was taught > > or otherwise imbibed the so-called information that > > T.E. Lawrence AND D.H. Lawrence were distantly related. > > So far neither I nor my incredibly knowledgeable internet > > buddy/guru have been able to ascertain anything to back > > that possibility up. > > > > Anyone know anything about it? > > > > Thanks muchly for your time and patience, > > Peter