Dear Carroll,

Excuse me, I think I follow all of this but one point:  what is
"Christian" about either Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson?  (except, of
course, their own self labeling)

Oh yes, and it is two words:  Waste Land.  In this case, I do not
think it is pedantry but genuinely different implacations.
"Wasteland" is a single noun, a thing, but "Waste Land" is a noun
plus adjective in which the adjective is a form of the verb "to waste."
The two word title thus retains the active sense of the verb.  I think
Eliot insisted on that form for a real reason.  It is a land to which
something terrible has happened, and the happening is part of that


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1a. Is X relevant to the Poem?

1b. Is the Poem relevant to X?

2.  Is WW I relevant to _The Wasteland_?

3.  Is _The Wasteland_ relevant to WW I?

4.  Is the relevance of _The Wasteland_ to WW I relevant to _The

5.  Is Christianity relevant to Four Quartets?

6.  If Christianity is relevant to Four Quartets, is the negative
critique of Christianity relevant to Four Quartets?

7.  To what extent can one make a simple identity between
Christianity 1942 and Christianity 2003?

7a. Is Christianity the same in a period characterized by extreme
threats to the human rights of Americans of Middle-Eastern
ancestry as it was before the non-Christian religious community in
the U.S. became a major element in u.s. life?

7b. Is it permissible that a 2003 consideration of Four Quartets
consider the poem's status in a world in whgich Jerry Falwell and
Pat Robinson are major Christian voices?

And so forth. I am attempting to suggest that the question of "What
is the relation of OT to OT in a discussion of T. S. Eliot?" (I am of
course playing off the fact that O can be either On or Off.)