It is interesting that Eliot does provoke provocation to a serious end.  The
current issue of Modernism/Modernity is very provocative, but a set of very
serious scholars all seem to think the stakes important--on both sides of
the anti-Semitism issue.  I appreciate the post from Vishvesh as opening a
real question about the ways Eliot spoke on culture.

Had Eliot stuck to poetry and especially nonprovocative poetry (did he
write any?), no doubt these questions would not come up.  But Eliot
chose to make cultural pronouncements.  That is what creates the debate.

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From: Vishvesh Obla [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

I remember some remarks made earlier that Eliot with his kind of
educational, Elizabethan and religious background couldn't have found
Lawrence to his liking.  But when you read Eliot's comments on Lawrence,
they appear much more than that ; nor can they be considered passing
remarks or minor judgements, which could be flawed and hence not viewed
seriously. There is a cynical force behind them which makes them all the
more to be analysed.


You have some interesting generalisations here that make one

think that Eliot's view on Middleton might be brought into play,

but without specifics, it's not really worth the effort. It's a whole

lot easier just to think you are just being provocative to no good end.

Dr. Peter C. Montgomery
Dept. of English
Camosun College
3100 Foul Bay Rd.
Victoria, BC CANADA V8P 5J2
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