From: Vishvesh Obla [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re : Eliot and Lawrence
Dear Professor Montgomery,
Let me say that I am sorry if I had offended anyone. No, I didn't try to be provocative, but if I sounded so, let me first apologize for it. I am quite baffled by Eliot's attitude towards
and I am only trying to see how far I have been right in understanding it. For, Eliot matters much to me as Lawrence and Leavis do. But I feel that behind the animosity shown by Eliot there is a key to a finer perception of both their art, and this is worth scrutiny. Let me repeat again, that if I appear provocative in doing it, it is not intentional. Lawrence
Thanks for your kind words.
Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:It is interesting that Eliot does provoke provocation to a serious end. The
current issue of Modernism/Modernity is very provocative, but a set of very
serious scholars all seem to think the stakes important--on both sides of
the anti-Semitism issue. I appreciate the post from Vishvesh as opening a
real question about the ways Eliot spoke on culture.
Had Eliot stuck to poetry and especially nonprovocative poetry (did he
write any?), no doubt these questions would not come up. But Eliot
chose to make cultural pronouncements. That is what creates the debate.
Date sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:29:36 -0800
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From: Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Re : Eliot and Lawrence
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From: Vishvesh Obla [mailto:[log in to unmask] COM]
I remember some remarks made earlier that Eliot with his kind of
educational, Elizabethan and religious background couldn't have found
Lawrence to his liking. But when you read Eliot's comments on Lawrence,
they appear much more than that ; nor can they be considered passing
remarks or minor judgements, which could be flawed and hence not viewed
seriously. There is a cynical force behind them which makes them all the
more to be analysed.
You have some interesting generalisations here that make one
think that Eliot's view on Middleton might be brought into play,
but without specifics, it's not really worth the effort. It's a whole
lot easier just to think you are just being provocative to no good end.
Dr. Peter C. Montgomery
Dept. of English
3100 Foul Bay Rd.
Victoria, BC CANADA V8P 5J2
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