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Peter,
    I wonder about your offer to monitor a list.  Apparently there is
not yet a lot of support for a monitored Eliot list.
    However, since the topics of war/ politics seem not to be avoided,
I wonder if you'd have any takes on a list discussing current events?
No ad hominen attacks,  just an enhancement of our understanding of
issues.
    Personally, I liked your link to The Crisis Papers and popped it
into my Favorites, as well as passing it along to others.
     It would be useful to have such discussions, share op/ed pieces,
share links to a variety of viewpoints from around the world on
current events. Much of America is sheltered, if that is the proper
term, from much of world opinion and events.  Or we get it in
30-second media sound bites, which is awesome-frustrating if you are
trying for formulate an informed view on a matter.
    A quote from one of Nancy's posts: " I also think that this forum
does become a place where sometimes current
issues are discussed precisely because there is a sense of  "knowing"
other members--not personally but as an intellectual community.  And
those are people one might like to hear from or talk with in crises."
    What do you think?
                __Dorothy

ps.  I have certain annoying posters in my "blocked senders" list.
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  From: Peter Montgomery
  To:
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  Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: Who would define "Topic"?


  From: Nancy Gish

  The answer to your question is really quite
  simple, although the concept is hard to define.
  The community would decide what is on or off topic.

  There are, of course, rules of decorum whereby
  what should be kept to an interchange between
  members should not go on the list.

  The community could give the monitor guidence as to what
  he or she might accept, or feel obligated to challenge.
  Some lists have an off-list list among an agreed few who
  act as a kind of senate for the monitor. If the senate
  votes to warn or delist a member, then it happens on the
  basis of a vote.

  The obvious nutcses, tricksters and trolls could easily
  be delisted.

  It comes down to a case of whether people would want
  to make it work. There are tonnes of ways to throw
  roadblocks in its way.

  Cheers,
  Peter

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__Dorothy </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Bookman Old Style"><FONT size=3D2>ps.&nbsp; I have =
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Dr. Peter C. Montgomery
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Camosun College
3100 Foul Bay Rd.
Victoria, BC CANADA V8P 5J2
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