I don't mean to be cheesy or picky or difficult or whatever,
but since the issue is an important one, I'm curious about
what you mean in "The degree of intentionality attributed ...
seems not possible." To what specific degree are you referring?
No degree of intentionality? High degree? Some degree? Any degree?


Dr. Peter C. Montgomery
Dept. of English
Camosun College
3100 Foul Bay Rd.
Victoria, BC CANADA V8P 5J2
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From: Nancy Gish [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Greek myths and TWL--Plot?

I agree that "lines" is more apt, but I do not see why it is assumed that he
"worked in" anything either.  The degree of intentionality attributed to
constantly changing and apparently endless allusions and complicated
arrangements seems not possible.

It is frequently suggested on this list that biography takes away from
aesthetic appreciation, but I wonder what  is the effect of denying genuine
experience and feeling as a key part of what he was writing during a
deeply disturbed and disturbing part of his life.  The idea of a poem
constructed of thousands of puzzle pieces disconnected from desire or
emotion does not seem more valuable to me.

Perhaps it would be interesting to consider what we mean by the aesthetic.

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Rick Parker wrote:

Remember that Eliot's allusion to the reverse aspect of
Tiresias-Athena was RELATIVELY easy to add to TWL though his note
and not
having to work it into the plot.

Nancy Gish wrote:
> Out of curiousity, what "plot"?

Bad word.  I tried "poem" but that didn't seem right to me either.
I was tired and I figured I spend enough time on TSE today so exercised
finger and hit the send button instead of exercising my brain.  Maybe
"lines" would be better?

    Rick Parker