I don't find TWL as soapy at all. Period. I find the idea of weaving in a Verdenal interpretation soapy. I don't think the poetry justifies such a personal take. I don't mean that as a negative comment at Steve. It's just my own opinion. Honest and straight up. Cheers, Peter Dr. Peter C. Montgomery Dept. of English Camosun College 3100 Foul Bay Rd. Victoria, BC CANADA V8P 5J2 [log in to unmask] www.camosun.bc.ca/~peterm -----Original Message----- From: Earls, JP [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:39 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Various Peter, If you consider TWL-as-threnody soapy, then you must consider Tennyson's _In Memoriam_ to be super high grade cleans-all detergent. Regards. --JP J. P. Earls, OSB St. John' University Collegeville, MN 56321 -----Original Message----- From: Peter Montgomery [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 11:44 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Various We are looking at the difference between soap oprah and high drama. Personally I find the Verdenl dimension very soappy.