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Do you mean, Steve, conceivably that therewas a resemblance between Viv's condition that of shell shocked soldiers? It's a truly fascinating question, that could open a window of thought one might call culture shell shock or some such. Today it manifests in anorexia, drug abuse, &c. Also, I'm wondering which game of chess is being played out, Middleton's or Shakespeare's. Eliot got into some key observations about Middleton's characters (different play to be sure) that were key to what he was saying about Lawrence's and Pound's characters. He was in effect on P.W. Lewis' side about issues relating to executive will and intelligence. Cheers, Peter. Dr. Peter C. Montgomery Dept. of English Camosun College 3100 Foul Bay Rd. Victoria, BC CANADA V8P 5J2 [log in to unmask] www.camosun.bc.ca/~peterm -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:28 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Nerves, nerves, nerves (was "Do I dare disturb the universe") In a message dated 2/22/03 6:02:15 PM EST, [log in to unmask] writes: > A German soldier: ...in the drumfire bravery > no longer exists: only nerves, nerves, nerves. > When anyone is exposed unto such trials and > tribulations he is no longer of any use > as an attacker or defender... Carrol: These and the other fragments that you sent in are powerful quotes that remind us all of the realities of war. To bring this back to Eliot: Your last quote had the phrase "nerves, nerves, nerves", which certainly reminds me of the nervous woman in "A Game of Chess" ("My nerves are bad tonight"). Nancy has pointed out the WW1 references in TWL, including the solders (Stetson and Lil's husband), and we know Lil's husband appears in "A Game of Chess". Carrol, Nancy, and all: Do you think that, in part, TSE was trying to contrast a person made "nervous" while coping with everyday life compared to a WW1 soldier made "nervous" by the insanities of war? I hadn't considered such a comparison before, but maybe the reader is being invited to compare the Cleopatra woman's "nerves" to a WW1 soldier's "nerves". -- Steve --