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I just thought I would do a little pontificating myself on whatever subject---- Jacek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Jean-Baptiste" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 9:24 PM Subject: Re: OT: Canada and Vietnam (was, Marianne Moore poem in WWII) > How do you know all of this, Jacek? You don't even > know that it's Ms. Condoleeza Rice, not Mrs. It takes > a bit of effort to add that r between the M and S, so > I won't buy the typo claim. > > And what, pray tell, are Ms Rice's "extreme" > limitations? She couldn't get just plain old > limitations; it's gotta be "extreme." > > What sexist/racist bees are floating under your > bonnet? > /pjb > --- Jacek Niecko <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > The problem with Mrs. Rice is simply that she is an > > extremely limited person > > who owes her position exclusively to her ethnic and > > gender status--the same, > > by the way, is true of her predecessor of > > sorts--former Secretary of State > > Madeleine Albright who must be by far one of the > > most stupid people ever > > selected to serve as a senior government official in > > this country. > > > > Jacek Niecko > > Washington, DC > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:11 PM > > Subject: Re: OT: Canada and Vietnam (was, Marianne > > Moore poem in WWII) > > > > > > > > From: Nancy Gish [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > > > > > > > > I really don't think you can blame feminism for > > Condi Rice any more than > > > > you could praise masculism for Martin Luther > > King or Gandhi or Viet Nam > > > > objectors who went to Canada. > > > > > > > > > > I think your grouping of these latter three > > together overlooks an > > important point. > > > > > > ML King and Gandhi fought repressive systems from > > within through passive > > resistance, which included accepting the punishment > > meted out by the > > oppressors and using that punishment to illustrate > > the injustice of what was > > being done. Those who went to Canada to avoid the > > Vietnam draft -- whatever > > their degree of principle, which presumably varied > > -- were engaging in > > something different. Muhammad Ali would be the > > better example to complete > > your triad, as he remained in the country and thus > > remained subject to the > > law he was challenging (and was ultimately > > vindicated, albeit on dubious > > technical grounds unworthy of the principle he was > > standing for.) That's my > > view of it, anyway. > > > > > > Tom K > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com >