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nancy, i for one hope that you are.
i find nothing here offensive other
than your reaction, and you should
be the first to talk.  the majority
of your posts to this list are
incredibly abusive, even if they
are couched in pretty, academic
language.

michelle

--- Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> This is the most offensive message ever posted on this list in
> the time I
> have been on it.  Have you no idea what you are saying?  Do
> you think
> that ludicrous icon masks or mitigates it?
>
> I hope I am not the only one who finds this astonishingly
> unacceptable.
>
> Nancy
>
>
> Date sent:              Mon, 9 Dec 2002 13:46:37 -0800
> Send reply to:          "T. S. Eliot Discussion forum."
> <[log in to unmask]>
> From:                   Peter Montgomery
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:                Re: Watch out for the economy
> To:                     [log in to unmask]
>
> From: John Ryskamp
>
> You should worry less about differences between parties and
> start
> worrying that your economy, like the American, is about to
> fall apart.
> Here in California the State budget deficit is publicly stated
> to be $21
> billion. But do you know what the whisper number is?  SIXTY
> billion, and
> growing rapidly. Come about February you will see how bad it
> really is.  I
> suppose a lot of people on this thread are tenured
> professors--well, these
> are the folks they're talking about cutting here, even at
> prestigious
> Berkeley. You shouldn't get caught unaware by this--you're
> never really
> told how bad it is going to get, you have to ferret it out of
> people who
> have reason to know how revenues and sales are really doing:
> California is
> a disaster area, and if California sinks, America drowns (and
> Britain
> never had a chance). Start agitating for rights that will keep
> you in your
> housing regardless of what happens to the economic situation
> or your own
> economic situation.   Enuf bout Eliot--aux armes!
> ================================================ Yes
> Mark. And what do you
> do for an encore? Put on black face paint with white lips, and
> roll around
> on your bum?
>
> ;->
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
>
> >From: INGELBIEN RAPHAEL <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: "T. S. Eliot Discussion forum."
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: OT British politics (was Thatcher)
> >Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:45:47 +0100
> >
> >From Nancy:
> >
> > > I thought it very odd to see Labour called centrist and
> Lib-Dem not
> >(...)
> > > So I am still puzzled at the way you (Kate) define the
> parties.
> >
> >When one looks at issues like public services, it's hard to
> tell who is
> now
> >left of centre. In some respects, New Labour is more
> right-wing than
> the
> >Lib
> >Dems. Also, did you note Charles Kennedy's address to the TUC
> conference
> >this year?
> >
> >From Kate:
> >
> > > Labour is almost completely centrist, which is why they
> won so
> >decisively
> >in the last couple of
> > > elections
> >
> >It looks decisive if you consider their majority in the
> Commons. It
> looks
> >definitely less decisive if you consider the number of votes
> cast for
> >Labour. Blair never got as many votes as John Major in 1992 -
> or as
> >Thatcher in
> the
> >eighties. In some constituencies (often held by Labour), the
> turn-out
> at
> >the
> >last general election was a joke (less than 40%). The overall
> turnout
> was
> >slightly over 60% - an all-time low. How solid is popular
> support for
> >Blair, really?
> >
> > > rather, Labour was now the spokesperson for all of the
> middle class
> and
> >the best interests of Britain.
> >
> >Is there any dictionary that defines 'middle class' as a
> synonym of
> >'Britain' ?
> >
> > > He made it clear that improving their Health Service and
> Educational
> >system, and the interests of the
> > > nation as a whole, was more important than union interests
> >
> >That's presumably why Britain is now exporting patients to
> continental
> >hospitals. That's presumably why teacher shortages are
> growing at the
> same
> >rate as educational red tape.  That's presumably why the
> British
> university
> >system is heading for meltdown.
> >
> > > The Lib-Dems are now clearly to the left of many of Blair
> and
> Labour's
> >positions, the issue of Europe > and how intimate Britain
> should be in
> >their alliance being prominent among the issues.
> >
> >I wonder where that leaves the Europhile Tories who want to
> sign up to
> the
> >single currency. Are they left-wing? The Europhobia of the
> Tory
> leadership
> >certainly didn't help the party much at the last two
> elections.
> >
> >I'm sure Nancy could also point out that there are parts of
> Britain
> where
> >the Euro is popular - Scotland, for instance. Though I
> suspect that
> that
> >popularity is sometimes inspired by a rejection of English
> attitudes,
> more
> >than by a real grasp of what is at stake in the single
> currency.
> >
> >Yours,
> >
> >RaphaŽl
> >[log in to unmask]
>
>
>
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