The Common Poorwill is listed as hypothetical on the mobirds checklist, therefore the Poorwill isn't a first state record, however, it offers unquestionable evidence. So the bird can be given full status as a confirmed state bird...
Great birding
Will Chatfield-Taylor

Johnson County, Kansas

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From: Robert Fisher <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: Poorwills near Swope Park, KC, in days of yore
Date: Mon, Nov 18, 2002, 6:06 PM


Lloyd:
 
Thanks for pulling up Brad Jacobs' post alleging that the Poor-will recently found alive in Kansas City is a first state record.
 
Rising, et. all cites to Page 276 of Harris' 1919 book for the statement that someone named Bush alleged that Poor-wills bred near Swope Park in olden times. If Brad has access to that book, he might look it up. if accurate, the recent Poor-will is not a first state record.
 
I do not have Robbins & Easterla's book. I'm guessing that they reviewed Harris' statement about Poor-wills and made some comment about it. If you have it and can let us know what they say, I'd appreciate it.
 
Thanks.
 
 
Bob Fisher
Independence, Missouri
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From: Lloyd Moore <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Poorwills near Swope Park, KC, in days of yore

Robert,
 
I believe this is the message you were referring to.
 
Lloyd
 
 
Brad Jacobs sent this to all/many of the regional conservation offices
across the state.  I thought it might be of interest.  I got it from Tom
Nagel, naturalist at our MDC office in St. Joseph.

Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 4:51 PM
Subject: Fwd: poorwill shots


> This poor-will was found alive in KC, MO, the first record ever for this
> species in the state. It had a  broken wing. There have been scattered
> reports of poor-wills calling in the western edge of the state but no
> confirmations on any to date. This may be species number 400 for the
> state, depending if the red-necked stint is finally verified by some
> outside experts.
>
> brad

Larry Lade
St. Joseph
Buchanan Co.
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From: Robert Fisher <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  
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Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:01 PM
Subject: Poorwills near Swope Park, KC, in days of yore

I recall a post in the last month or so about a Poor-will in Missouri.
 
While cleaning out my office, I recently came upon BIRDS OF THE KANSAS CITY AREA by Rising, Pucci, Johnson and Dawson (Burroughs Audubon Society, 1978), which compiles bird records in and around Kansas City, including those listed in Harry Harris' comprehensive work, BIRDS OF THE KANSAS CITY REGION (1919).  According to Rising, et al., Harris, in turn, evidently refers to someone named Bush in saying of Poor-will, "Formerly found near Swope Park, Jackson Co., Mo." If such triple hearsay can be said to be reliable, Poor-will was formerly a resident in my part of our state.
 
Evidently, a lot of the area around Kansas City was previously tallgrass prairie, which could have provided appropriate habitat for Poor-wills. Agriculture, suppression of fire and, more recently, development changed its character, so that the prairie is no longer recogizable, and it is difficult to imagine Poor-wills ever breeding near Kansas City.
 
Rising et al. go on to cite several more recent records of the species in Eastern Kansas, including one calling May 7, 1969 at Camp Towanyak, Wyandotte County, KS, a relatively short distance from the Missouri line.
 
Poor-wills are still common breeders on the Konza Prairie, near Manhattan Kansas, and in the Flint Hills, west of Emporia, 100-150 miles west of the Missouri/Kansas state line.
 
Bob Fisher
Independence, Missouri
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