Edge, thank you for replying.

I did not mention earlier that the bird has a black eye and has no eye ring.  His neck ring is almost invisible it is so light.    Also did not mention he sounds different from the mourning doves, but I could not produce the sound.  It looks more like the Ringed turtle than any other of the doves in Sibley, but not exactly like it either.

again, thanks.

helen
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