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I for one was really glad that the story was posted. I'm a  animal lover as
well as bird lover.  Attitudes like the one chastising for posting about the
mountain lion  and the one over the "Cardinal" post are reasons I don't
post.
Rita Goforth
St. Charles MO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: No More Mountain Lion - Please


> This I disagree with.  We all know that we would not
> postulate about internal combustion engines when
> relating to birds, simply because it is not a natural
> part of the ecosystem. The mountain lion, black bears,
> and birds are.  We all must remove our anthropocentric
> "coats" and realize we are all in this together.
>
> I promise to only relate DIRECTLY to birds.
>
> My apologies for the ruffled feathers.
>
> Lynn Miller
> Lone Jack,MO
> Jackson CO.
>
> --- Tracy Barnes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I believe Mike Grant's post was meant to be
> > sarcastic. Following
> > the train of thought postulated by Lynn and Keith, I
> > could launch
> > into a discussion about the workings of the internal
> > combustion
> > engine ( and the environmental hazards), because I
> > need a car to
> > get to my favorite birding spots. Actually, we
> > should be bird-centric
> > on Mobirds, because this is a listserve for
> > discussion pertaining to
> > wild birds.Although I found the posts regarding
> > Mountain Lions and
> > Bears to be interesting, I do not believe they are
> > appropriate for
> > discussion on a WILD BIRD listserve. The information
> > that I recieved
> > when subscribing clearly spells this out.
> > Just my opinion,
> > Doug Willis
> > Farmington,MO
> > St.Francois County
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Keith Brink
> >   To: [log in to unmask]
> >   Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:54 AM
> >   Subject: Re: No More Mountain Lion - Please
> >
> >
> >         I also agree.  I used to run 3 MAPS banding
> > sites in Colorado and we once had a Female Black
> > Bear with 3 cubs treed because they didn't see us
> > coming, a Cougar, Coyotes and a male Black Bear
> > feeding or sleeping right next to one of the nets
> > that fortunately left peacefully but could have
> > seriously mauled the bander that went in to set up
> > that net.  So let's not be to bird centric, because
> > there are animals out there that consider us soft
> > and chewy on the outside and crunchy in the middle.
> >
> >         From Past Experience,
> >         Keith Brink
> >         Liberty, MO
> >         Clay CO
> >
> >         -------Original Message-------
> >
> >         From: MO Wild Bird Forum
> >         Date: Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:37:11 PM
> >         To: [log in to unmask]
> >         Subject: Re: No More Mountain Lion - Please
> >
> >         I agree, I was on a bird project when my
> > encounter
> >         occured, I consider this pertinent:)
> >         Lynn Miller
> >         Lone Jack, MO
> >         Jackson CO
> >
> >         --- "Grant, Mike" <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >         > Susan,
> >         >
> >         > Hazards to bird watchers are pertinent to
> > the list.
> >         > Those of us from the
> >         > right side of the state now know that we
> > need to
> >         > bring mountain lion
> >         > repellant when birding on the other side
> > of the
> >         > state. :-)
> >         >
> >         > And wild cats are hazards to birds, the
> > bigger the
> >         > cat the bigger the
> >         > hazard, right?
> >         >
> >         > Mike Grant
> >         > St. Louis
> >         >
> >         > -----Original Message-----
> >         > From: Hazelwood, Susan
> >         > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >         > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:57 AM
> >         > To: [log in to unmask]
> >         > Subject: No More Mountain Lion - Please
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > I know Chris Snook is currently
> > unavailable to write
> >         > this himself and I've
> >         > just returned from being out of town.
> > Hence the
> >         > delay in getting this
> >         > scolding out. Remember, MOBirds-L is a
> > listserve
> >         > where the forum is about
> >         > wild birds and things pertaining to wild
> > birds.
> >         > Please, please stick to the
> >         > topic.
> >         >
> >         > Thanks for cooperating (and avoiding our
> > risking
> >         > loss of our free service
> >         > provided by the University of
> > Missouri-Columbia).
> >         >
> >         > On the bird front. Fellows Lake, north of
> >         > Springfield, MO, had one Osprey,
> >         > two Common Loons, lots and lots of
> > Yellow-rumped
> >         > Warblers, Dark-eyed Juncos,
> >         > two Pied-billed Grebes, and three
> > Double-crested
> >         > Cormorants yesterday.
> >         >
> >         > Susan Hazelwood, co-list owner for
> > MOBirds-L
> >         > Columbia, Boone County, MO
> >         > [log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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