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Joao,=20
    As an actor, I relate to this device, which I see as theatrical.  =
Eliot merely uses an aside as an actor would, stepping off "to the side" =
to reveal inner content.  Then he steps back into the poem.  Perhaps =
this is what you mean by excursus.  This to me explains the departure, =
or excursion off.=20
    Ron
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Jo=E3o Verg=EDlio Gallerani Cuter=20
  To: [log in to unmask]
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 12:31 AM
  Subject: East Coker


  In the second paragraph of East Coker II we find what seems to be a =
fragment of criticism, as if we were reading a torn newspaper:
    That was a way of putting it - not very satisfactory:
    A periphrastic study in a worn-out poetical fashion,
    Leaving one still with the intolerable wrestle
    With words and meanings. The poetry does not matter.
    It was not (to start again) what one had expected.
  And then, all of a sudden, Eliot begins to talk about the deceiving =
"wisdom of age". I have some difficulty in seeing the exact relationship =
between these two blocks. Is the second a direct continuation of the =
first? Are we being invited to imagine the "periphrastic study" as (let =
us say) a poetic portrayal of old age? My feeling is that this is not =
the right track. We would have to take the "continuation" as a kind of =
excursus, and it doesn't sound like that. (Try to read it with a "by the =
way" prefixed: "By the way, what was to be the value of...etc.". It =
doesn't fit.) But if it is not an excursus, what the hell is the first =
part doing there? What is the meaning of the juxtaposition?
  =20
  Jo=E3o
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As an actor, I relate to this device, which I see as theatrical.&nbsp; =
Eliot=20
merely uses an aside as an actor would, stepping off "to the side" to =
reveal=20
inner content.&nbsp; Then he steps back into the poem.&nbsp; Perhaps =
this is=20
what you mean by excursus.&nbsp; This to me explains the departure, or =
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Ron</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 05, =
2002 12:31=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> East Coker</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In the second paragraph of East Coker =
II we find=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That was a way of putting it - not =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A periphrastic study in a worn-out =
poetical=20
    fashion,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Leaving one still with the =
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    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>With words and meanings. The poetry =
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  <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And then, all of a sudden, =
Eliot begins=20
  to talk about the deceiving "wisdom of age". I have some difficulty in =
seeing=20
  the exact relationship between these two blocks. Is the second a =
direct=20
  continuation of the first? Are we being invited to imagine the =
"periphrastic=20
  study" as (let us say) a poetic portrayal of old age? My feeling is =
that this=20
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kind=20
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with a=20
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