Dear Tom,
Thanks for the accurate reading.  I think one could add that smoking cigars 
WHEN YOU HAVE EMPHYSEMA [ah, the clarity of caps] and chronic 
bouts of bronchitis will contribute to bad health and that this is hardly a 
moral or ethical judgment.

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In a message dated Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:35:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> In a message dated 9/27/2001 11:25:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> As you clearly do not know anything about it, perhaps you could restrain
> your more inappropriate tendencies.

<<You're the one with the inappropriate tendencies. At any rate, I was not
disputing the fact that Eliot liked to drink and smoke. My comment was
directed to your supposition that it's "evil" or at the very least "very
bad behavior" to drink and smoke. Not so at all - which attitude I know
will be particularly upsetting and incomprehensible to a politically
correct person such as yourself.>>

I feel I can trump Kate's arguement by employing the upper case to write,

I don't see how one can miss the distinction between "contributing to poor
health" and "evil" or "very bad."  Most, perhaps excepting members of
holistic health cults, would recognize that they mean very different

I don't know to what extent his personal habits (which also included a
love of cheese) contributed to Eliot's poor health.  As a general
proposition, it is tough to deny that smoking and, beyond a certain point,
drinking (and eating cheese) will do so.

I think most people would acknowledge that, while recognizing that Eliot's
indulgence in these activities does not, by itself, make him a bad person.

Tom K