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Gunnar Jauch wrote:

> It's too bad that the TSE list archives are still unavailable in their
> entity; we've been through this topic various times!


I also miss having the TSE archives on-line at the web site.  But Greg
has indicated that part of the reason they are not on-line is because
they were taking up too much disk space.  And, at the risk of seeming
too possessive of the list, I have a couple of requests.  Please don't
anyone take offense.


Here are two things that sometimes get to me, mainly they bug me when
reading the TSE mail at work when I have to download my mail as normal
text files.

1) Please edit your posts to keep only the important parts of the mail
you are responding to.  One usually doesn't need to include the full
prior post.  Especially when that includes the whole post of the one
previous to that, which includes ... well, you get the idea.

2) Also, please try to avoid sending in posts written in HTML unless
you really need it to for certain formatting.  Not all e-mail readers
can handle this and it adds a lot of overhead.  I realize that this
HTML request is most likely a lost cause, because I think Microsoft
sets it's mailers up with HTML as the default and I know that
Microsoft doesn't make it easy to override whatever the default is.


Anyway, an example follows.  Forgive me Pat, I'm not picking on you.
I know that you usually do edit the messages.  It's just that one of
your latest posts is handy and makes a good example of what I'm
writing about.

The post consisted of the four words "Excuse me. Sam Catanzaro."
Because it was sent in HTML and contained the history of quoted prior
messages, the TSE list processor sent out an additional 190 lines of
text taking up about 8 KB of space.  Below, following the line of plus
signs, is the EXTRA text that I had to sort through when trying to
pick up the simple four word message (I changed some symbols to make
sure that all mail readers pick this up as text, similar to what my
reader sees.  For example the five characters "*nbsp;" is normally
" " with an ampersand and all five characters encode in HTML a
single space character.)


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In a message dated 7/17/01 9:46:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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] Subj:Re: Was his glass always half empty?
] Date:7/17/01 9:46:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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] Correct. It's what Sam Catazano said. 
] 
] In a message dated 7/16/01 9:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
] [log in to unmask] writes: 
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] ]] This is NOT what I said.  It was what I responded to. 
]] Nancy 
]] 
]] 
]] Date sent:          Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:02:20 EDT 
]] Send reply to:      [log in to unmask] 
]] From:               [log in to unmask] 
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]] Subject:            Re: Was his glass always half empty? 
]] 
]] In a message dated 7/16/01 5:50:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
]] [log in to unmask] writes: 
]] 
]] 
]] ] Date sent:          Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:18:01 -0500 
]] ] Send reply to:      [log in to unmask] 
]] ] From:               Sam Catanzaro [[log in to unmask]] 
]] ] To:                 [log in to unmask] 
]] ] Subject:            Re: Was his glass always half empty? 
]] ] 
]] ] Perhaps I don't understand the question, but I've been surprised 
]] ] throughout this thread that no one has cited "Old Possum's Book of 
]] ] Practical Cats" as proof that Eliot knew how to have fun, even if some 
]] ] (many?) of his works explore inter- and intrapersonal alienation. 
]] ] 
]] 
]] I personally think he has a great sense of humor, and kind of twisted, 
]] which is what I like about it. 
]] 
]] pat 
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[BR]In a message dated 7/17/01 9:46:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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[BR][BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"]Subj:[B]Re: Was his glass always half empty?[/B]
[BR]Date:7/17/01 9:46:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time
[BR]From: *nbsp;*nbsp;*nbsp;[log in to unmask]
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[BR][/FONT][FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial Narrow" LANG="0"][B]Correct. It's what Sam Catazano said. 
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[BR]In a message dated 7/16/01 9:48:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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[BR][/FONT][FONT  COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"][/B]
[BR][BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"]This is NOT what I said. *nbsp;It was what I responded to. 
[BR]Nancy 
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[BR]*gt; 
[BR]*gt; Perhaps I don't understand the question, but I've been surprised 
[BR]*gt; throughout this thread that no one has cited "Old Possum's Book of 
[BR]*gt; Practical Cats" as proof that Eliot knew how to have fun, even if some 
[BR]*gt; (many?) of his works explore inter- and intrapersonal alienation. 
[BR]*gt; 
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[BR]I personally think he has a great sense of humor, and kind of twisted, 
[BR]which is what I like about it. 
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[BR]pat 
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