Those metaphors are very interesting,  I assume neither Brooks nor Davie
gave Pound credit.

I have already given the citation for the fluid versus solid form that
Brooks reuses;   In his "Treatise on Metre"  a seperate section of "A B C of
Reading"   Pound says,  "Rhythm is a form cut into TIME, as a design is
determined space."  He later in the same piece repeats the first
phrase.(capitalization is Pound's,  I think he fully intended to shout and
just was a little ahead of his time.  He did alot of shouting)

By the way Pound in 1912 says that one of his goals is a "Language beyond

Rick Seddon
McIntosh, NM, USA
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Date: Thursday, March 29, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Form in TWL

>Richard Seddon wrote:
>> You and Nancy are right;  language has sequence and therefore is
>There are two metaphors you might be interested in.
>     The poem as a well-wrought urn.  (Cleanth Brooks from Donne's "The
>     Canonization")
>     The poem as a shape cut in time.  (Donald Davie  “Syntax and Music in
>     ‘Paradise Lost’,” in _The Living Milton_, Frank Kermode, editor.)