Dear "JP,"

I am delighted.  But which book? 

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I was delighted to find that our sister college, College of St. Benedict,
has your book.  Perhaps it would please you to know that someone has it
checked out, due April 11!

J. P. Earls, OSB
English Department
St. John's University
Collegeville, MN 56321
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God how one's past words come back to haunt one.  I don't even generally
agree with myself anymore.  I'd have to reread what I said  on that, but
like TSE I can't bear to reread myself.

I am afraid it is out of print.  You may need to use a library copy and
maybe xerox anything that seems useful.


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>Von: Rickard A Parker <[log in to unmask]>
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>Datum: Die, 20. Mär 2001 19:26 Uhr

>A multi-page web site:
>   Time, Eternity, and Immortality in T. S. Eliot's Four Quartets 
>   Terry L. Fairchild
>   Rick Parker

Thanks Rick, 

here's an excerpt from the aforementioned pages on TDS:

*Such critics as Nancy Gish read Eliot's river as a destructive force only
(1981, p. 108), a view inconsistent with Eliot's typical symbolic
patterning. As we have continuously seen, Eliot's chief symbols, the rose,
the circle, dancing, fire, all possess dual [sometimes: multiple / GJ]
characteristics-time and the timeless, permanent and impermanent, sublime
and profane, creative and destructive. However, words such as
"implacable," "destroyer," "unhonored, [and] unpropitiated / By
worshippers of the machine" seem initially to confirm Gish's pessimistic
view. But the river is not simply destructive; untamed and elemental, it
is also the antithesis of "the dwellers in the city" who have forgotten
the primal font from which all life springs.*

Dear Nancy, 

I'm making one last effort with my bookseller to obtain
*Time in the Poetry of T.S. Eliot* (London, Macmillan, 1981)