Viv also contributed much to The Criterion for some years.  --  Jim

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On Sat, 8/8/15, Nancy Gish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: More on checking: Sean O'Brien on Eliot's "The Waste Land"
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date: Saturday, August 8, 2015, 12:02 PM
 
 Eliot
 already had a line there. It was "You want to keep
 him at home, I suppose." Vivienne crossed it out and
 placed an asterisk next to it. At the bottom of the page she
 wrote as a footnote "What you get married for if you
 dont want to have children." 
  
 Valerie's annotation says "On the verso of
 this leaf, Vivien Eliot has written in pencil to her
 husband: 'Make any of these alterations--or none
 if you prefer. Send me back this copy & let me have
 it.'"
  
 Eliot took out "to have" and added the
 apostrophe and replaced his line with hers. Hers is a lot
 better in this case.
  
 It seems clear from recent biography that Vivienne did
 have a real influence on early poems after their marriage
 and before it all fell apart completely. 
  
 It is not just a matter of Eliot incorporating another
 voice--as he did by using Ellen Kellond's
 recounting of the pub exchange--but of editing in the
 same manner as Pound.
  
 Nancy
 
 
 >>> "Rickard A. Parker"
 <[log in to unmask]> 08/08/15 11:07 AM >>>
 
 On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:54:35 -0400, Nancy Gish
 <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
 
 >This line may be part of a brilliant exchange, but
 Vivienne wrote it and added it, not TSE: "What you get
 married for if you don't want children?" (See
 Facsimile.) 
 > 
 >Whether that matters is an open question. 
 >Nancy 
 
 After years this thought just came to me: What if Vivien
 just wrote down a line that was told to the Eliots but was
 forgotten to be added by TSE? My "Facsimile" has
 been missing for years so I can't see how this was
 inserted. 
 
 Regards, 
 Rick Parker