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TSE March 2013

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Re: "I have begun life three times"

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Mon, 11 Mar 2013 02:02:03 -0700

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"Rickard A. Parker" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Eliot turned 22 in September 1910 when he was in Paris. I would say that
>that was the year that he got his freedom from his parents, relatives,
>Harvard and Boston.  Meeting Verdenal would be significant too but let's
>face it, even if they didn't meet Eliot has escaped his old life.
>
>Eliot turned 28 in September 1916. He published Prufrock and Other Observations.
>
>But Eliot turned 26 in September 1914. In August 1914 he went to England
>from Germany when the war started. But then what did he do before September
>1915? He had moved permanently to England, gotten married, gotten his first
>job, had his first works published professionally (including LSJAP,) got
>introduced to London's literary circles and cut himself off from his
>parents. And that wasn't starting over? I think Eliot made a mistake in his
>arithmetic or possibly the editors put in 28 in place of 26.
>
>Eliot turned 40 in September 1928. On June 29, 1927, Eliot converted to
>Anglicanism from Unitarianism, and in November that year he took British
>citizenship. I think Eliot was using only approximate ages as those events
>happened when he was 38 and 39.
>
>
>Regards,
>   Rick Parker
>
>
>
>On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 09:57:26 -0400, Tom Colket <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>
>>I've
>>been reading "The Letters of T. S. Eliot - vol 4 (1928-1929)". While
>>many of the letters are routine business correspondence, there are some letters
>>that I am particularly interested in seeing what the List has to say.
>>
>> 
>>
>>One
>>such letter that caught my attention was written by TSE to his brother, Henry
>>Eliot, just a few weeks after their mother died in October, 1929. The letter is
>>long, but the excerpt that I'm posting below has TSE saying that he has "begun
>>life three times: at 22, at 28, and again at 40." The preceding paragraph
>>is about his job at Faber and Faber, but it's not clear to me if the reference
>>to having "begun life three times" is just a reference to starting
>>several jobs (like working at the bank and working for Faber), or is a more
>>general reference to starting a whole new phase of life. I'm also not clear
>>about the significance of the ages 22, 28, and 40. The earlier part of the
>letter
>>makes no other references to age. Also, there is no reply from Henry, at least,
>>no reply that is included in this volume (which ends on December 31, 1929).
>>
>> 
>>
>>As
>>always, comments are most welcome.
>>
>> 
>>
>>--
>>Tom --
>>
>> 
>>
>>========================================
>>
>> 
>>
>>From
>>"The Letters of T. S. Eliot- vol 4 (1928-1929)"., pages 652-653.
>>
>> 
>>
>>------------------------
>>
>> 
>>
>>To
>>Henry Eliot
>>
>> 
>>
>>October
>>19, 1929
>>
>> 
>>
>> . . . (first part of the letter not scanned in)
>>. . .
>>
>> 
>>
>>  At present I draw only �400 a year from the
>>firm, which includes my work in running the Criterion and my work as director;
>>and in the rearrangement of the firm, I find myself more and more concerned
>>with the publishing side. I first came in primarily as editor, with a salary of
>>�475 p.a. to cover both jobs; when the business was reorganised I offered the
>>reduction. Of course it is nothing like what a man should be earning at my age,
>>and if the firm flourishes, I shall of course insist on more pay. But I can't
>>do that at the present juncture; so I must supplement my income, just as I did
>>ten years ago, by reviewing, articles, prefaces, lectures, broadcasting talks,
>>and anything that turns up. I begin, I confess, to feel a little tired at my
>>age, of such irregular sources of income. I have begun life three times: at 22,
>>at 28, and again at 40; I hope I shall not have to do so again, because I am
>>growing tired.
>>
>>  It is a great relief to me to be able to
>>ramble on in this way about my affairs to you, and I wish you would do the
>>same. There is much more than can go into one letter, so consider this an
>>instalment.
>>
>> 
>>
>>Ever
>>your most affectionate brother,
>>
>>Tom
>>
>>-------------------
>>
>>  		 	   		  

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