> Cheers Nancy
This discussion with Peter D, Nancy et al is becoming both complex and
fascinating. I'm working on a response covering several of its points, but
the going is low.
Here's a quotation from a Milton critic bluntly asserting the truth of a
radical individualism. I will comment later.
From Desmond M. Hamlet, "Recalcitrance, Damnation, and the Justice of God
Paradise Lost." MiltonS. 1975; 8: 267-291.
. . . twofold recognition of the reprehensible nature of evil and of the
possibility of still exercising one's rational liberty for good. . . . it is
only such a recognition on the part of the reader . . . that will correctly
define the heinousness of evil, egoism, and injustice and simultaneously,
the desirability of good, altruism, and true liberty in the inevitable
relationships which all men are required to establish and vigilantly to
This is crudely but clearly put. Men [sic] exist, prior to any
relationships, for they must then (are required to) _establish_
relationships. As Margaret Thatcher once said, "Society doesn't exist; only
individuals and families exist." (Quoted from memory).