John and Rickard,
Sorry to be away. Guy sent maybe five or six posts setting up
background of ASG (not Journey of the Magi), by way of answering other
listers' questions, and I'd be glad to get to those a little later and
post them, maybe condensed some. All together they are somewhat lengthy.
I'm not sure where the logic breaks down for you, John, but to be sure
I'm no expert on early American sermons and theology and pretty much
took for granted the connection you are questioning. If I'm not
mistaken Brown is simply following Eliot following history, but will
look to Guy for that in a bit.
On 1/14/2012 7:57 AM, Rickard A. Parker wrote:
> On 1/12/2012 11:48 AM, John Morgenstern wrote:
>> Thank you, Ken and Richard, for your useful responses. My curiosity was
>> piqued while reading D. H. Lawrence's essay on /The Autobiography of
>> Benjamin Franklin/ in /Studies in Classic American Literature/, where
>> Lawrence counters Franklin's list of virtues with his own creed: "/That
>> gods, strange gods, come forth from the forest into the clearing of my
>> known self, and then go back/." Given Lawrence's presence in Eliot's
>> cultural critique, I wondered about possible connections. Guy Story
>> Brown's alignment of "strange gods" in the Old Testament with
>> (presumably) Winthrop's "city upon a hill" is striking, especially in
>> the context of Lawrence's attack on Franklin's brand of Calvinism.
>> Unfortunately, I fail to follow Brown's logic connecting the OT and
>> early American sermons. This is probably due to my own ignorance, but
>> would either of you mind spelling it out for me?
> As memory serves Brown left the TSE list not long after I joined at
> the start of my Eliot hobby. Maybe Ken can re-post more of the
> original GSB post.
> Rick Parker
> P.S. It's Rick or Rickard, not Richard. No apologies needed; it's
> something I live with.