There are some fdine lines in an early Canto (quoted  sloppily from
memory) The sculptor sees the form in the air, the in and the thrugh and
the three sides before he ever sets hand to mallet. That's what Eliot
had NOT done with that mass of lines he sent to Pound, seen the form he
wanted to emerge. Pound's suggestions were all towards bringing out that
buried form. Eliot could see what had happened, but I'm not convinced he
wholly understood it himself. It was Eliot who produced the  lines
including those superb opening lines, but he remained nearly as puzzled
as the rest of us at just precisely what he had done.e

Carrol

Carrol Cox wrote:
> 
> "'Ttroubled personality" is apt for Pound, but he had one other quality
> that never quite deserted him, even in the Pisan DTC: Generosity! It is
> quite extraordinary just how badly he wanted others to do well.
> 
> "Midwife" might be a more accurate & suggestive label for his part in
> TWL than "editor." He could see in that mass of junk (and much of it is
> junk) a poem that Eliot had produced but did not, I think, know he had
> produced. Eliot's disparate mumbles over the years re the poem reflexts
> his own surprise and puzzlement at what he had wrogught and which with
> Pound's help became visible. He himself  was the first of many readers,
> as it were, to find the poem baffling!
> 
> Carrol
> 
> Richard Seddon wrote:
> >
> > Good Grief
> >
> > Pound didn't get "Eliot's approval for his changes".  Pound didn't make any
> > changes to TWL.  He made suggestions which have been interpreted by scholars
> > as "editing".  Eliot took the majority of those suggestions to heart when he
> > produced the poem "The Waste Land".
> >
> > I was not enjoying some joke at your expense.  Your comments implied to me
> > motives in Pound that I do not believe were part of Pound's complex and
> > troubled personality.  Pound simply read and commented on a work of a
> > friend.  He did this routinely and very often for a plethora of other
> > modernist writers and aspiring writers.  His opinion was valued by most of
> > the early modernists and cherished by some.
> >
> >
> > Rick Seddon
> > Portales, NM