Sometimes, Diana, I think you mean to be playing Dick Martin to anyone
else's Dan Rowan. Peter was quoting some of TSE's poetry. How, exactly,
do you think it demonstrates he "over-thought everything"?
Diana Manister wrote:
> Your quote illustrates how Eliot over-thought everything; perhaps
> that's why he was so tortured and unhappy.
> > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 01:23:21 -0800
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Eliot on Charles Williams' mysticism
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> > To love God means to love his creation, and, I would suppose, especially
> > those are one's direct connection to that creation. Love of neighbor is
> > considered a test of love of God.
> > Obviously if one is totally focussed on God, one may not be conscious of
> > others, but even the mystics were not focussed on God to the
> exclusion of
> > all else every moment of their lives.
> > One of my favourite examples is St. Theresa of Avila. One time one
> of the
> > sisters happened on her while she was eatomng A quail (I think) with
> > gusto. The sister registed some shock.
> > St. Theresa said some thing like "What's wrong. When I pray I pray
> and when
> > I eat I eat.
> > Indeed, enjoying the gifts of God is an act of love.
> > Here is Eliot's take on the subject:
> > "There are three conditions which often look alike
> > Yet differ completely, flourish in the same hedgerow:
> > Attachment to self and to things and to persons, detachment
> > From self and from things and from persons; and, growing between them,
> > indifference
> > Which resembles the others as death resembles life,
> > Being between two lives-unflowering, between
> > The live and the dead nettle. This is the use of memory:
> > For liberation-not less of love but expanding
> > Of love beyond desire, and so liberation
> > From the future as well as the past.