I think Joyce's pun somewhere in FINNEGAN'S WAKE signifies the
degree to which Freud has penetrated the unconscious:

"girls are jung and easily freudened."

P.
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From: "Carrol Cox" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: Dante in the City (was : signs and wonders)


> > Nancy Gish wrote:
> > 
> > Dear Diana,
> > 
> > I do not find Freud as helpful as Janet and other explanations of, for
> > example, the loss of senses of the failure of ideas and imagination.
> > And I don't take his name as a basis for information in most cases; in
> > fact, he annoys me to the point of wanting to throw the book at the
> > wall much of the time.  He was deeply important, though not the
> > originator of many ideas attributed to him, but explanations of his
> > views does not explain much for me.  The unconscious, for example, was
> > not originally his idea; it was already there in Charcot, and Janet
> > also studied with Charcot.  My point is that it is not that I don't
> > know these terms or claims; it is that I don't take them as the source
> > of my reading.
> 
> 
> When  Freud enters a conversation I simpl tune out and think of England.
> "The Uncscious" is an absurd concept in any case. That most mental
> activity is unconscious is fairly obvious; but that fact is utterly
> irrelevant to theweird concept of "The Unconscious." There simpl is no
> entity corresponding to the phrase. And when Freud adds to the silliness
> by inventing The Ego, The Id, and the Super-Ego we are truly in the
> realmf of low comedy. Freud is important in the 20th century in that
> many were influenced by his thought and used hs categories, but he has
> long ceased to be of any particular relevance to understanding human
> thought and feeling.
> 
> Carrol