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MOBIRDS-L October 2009, Week 2

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Re: Anyone birding today?

From:

John Hansen <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

John Hansen <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:03:05 -0500

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I might as well jump into this.  While bird reports are very interesting and 
informative - it's much better to operate from a friendship basis.  I enjoy 
ALL the posts on Mobird, Ksbird and Okbird and the many other lists I have 
and am on.

It's not just about where a particular bird is - it's a social and 
educational network as well and among friends - even better.

Over a number of years I've seen some who wanted  the lists and 
relationships to be stiff -  I think that is wrong and all of us lose.

John Hansen  Saint Joseph, MO   [log in to unmask]


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christina McClarren" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Anyone birding today?


> Dear all:
>
> If this is to be the end of the thread, I just wanted to say I am very 
> grateful for everyone's thoughtful responses.  They have all made me 
> ponder... and continue to open up to compassion regarding the complexity 
> of our lives and our love of the birds.
>
> Mr. Coatney:  I think it must be obvious to you that I post what I am 
> seeing very regularly.  I have alerted you to what I am seeing at Tower 
> Grove probably more than anyone would care.  I also just alerted you to 
> what I saw at Creve Coeur.  You can see that I am both wheat and chaff.  I 
> like it that way and that is what I am on the list for.  We need both to 
> be whole.
>
> Edge:   Thank you so much for your defense of the thread and reminding us 
> about "stretching" ourselves.  I couldn't agree more
>
> Christine:  As you know full well, this list is not just for alerts.  If 
> it was, I would not be on it.  It is a discussion list about birds and 
> birding.  Anyone can easily delete a thread.   That's why we use Subject 
> lines. If my posts happen to be long on occasion, that doesn't mean I am 
> blogging.  I am discussing with folks who matter to me a complex topic. 
> And I also think you know it is incredibly disrespectufl for Mr. Coatney 
> to imply I am chaff - but that's okay.  I like being wheat and chaff.  I 
> don't mean this to argue with you.  I certainly didn't want the thread to 
> become an argument.  And it didn't.  But if you noticed,  hostility 
> entered into the thread with Mr. Coatney.  Edge was simply pointing it out 
> in her direct way.  I happen to like direct.  I think it's more honest.
>
> Nice thread everybody.  Thanks.
>
> Chris McClarren
> St. Loiuis South City
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> ---- "Christine Kline wrote:
>> And this is where the thread needs to end.
>>
>>
>>
>> William, you were being respectful.  In my opinion, mobirds has turned 
>> out
>> to be part blog/part bird alert.  There's nothing wrong with some
>> conversation that is non alert but with mobirds the threads seem to last
>> forever with some people turning things into an argument.  The below is 
>> an
>> unacceptable response - "We all know that phrase means you are chastising 
>> us
>> for not behaving as you would like and, therefore, you feel you owe us no
>> respect."  This was a slap on the cheek to someone who kindly mentioned 
>> he'd
>> like more birding alerts - with all do respect.  William, I agree.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christine Kline - Cass County/Pleasant Hill, MO
>>
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: Missouri Wild Bird Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Edge
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:06 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Anyone birding today?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Mr. Coatney,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going birding today.  I am also waiting patiently for your first
>> birding report post.  In the meantime, I will continue to post and to 
>> enjoy
>> reading posts about other birding-related issues.  I actually learn from
>> them.  We all should occasionally stretch ourselves to learn something 
>> new,
>> don't you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> And, please, don't use that "all due respect" thing on me or other folks
>> here.  We all know that phrase means you are chastising us for not 
>> behaving
>> as you would like and, therefore, you feel you owe us no respect.
>>
>>
>>
>> Edge Wade
>>
>> Columbia, MO
>>
>> [log in to unmask]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:33 AM, William R Coatney wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With all due respect to the folks that want to discuss
>> socio-political-ecological issues, I subscribed to hear what birds other
>> birders are seeing in their area. There are many web forums that have
>> software more conducive to debates/discussions than this listserve. Not
>> trying to step on anyone's free speech, just trying to separate the wheat
>> from the chaff.
>>
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