I believe that was actually Tom Colketin Discussion
with Nancy with an intervention by Diana.
In any case, Carrol, your point is still valid and I agree with you.
I much admire Pope.
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From: "Carrol Cox" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: Gerontion
> Diana Manister wrote:
> > If we assume that Eliot was referring to his own earlier poems as
> > NOT having this 'defect', perhaps "The Waste Land" can be said to gain
> > its power from "acute personal reminiscence, never to be explicated"."
> Consider: many of the most powerful passages in the poetry of Pope
> revolve around images of consstipation. Now it's perfectly possible that
> Pope had trouble with his bowel ovements, and for this reason imagery of
> constipation had real pressur for him. But it would not add one bit to
> the meaning of those passages if (a) this were true and (b) we knew of
> it. So Eliot's "never to be explicated" is not only a matter (for him)
> of preserving privacy, it is an important warning to readers that they
> will only confuse themselves and misread the poem if they dig up those
> personal experiences.
> Of course we know that one of the passages is almost a literal
> transcription of an event (My nerves are bad tonight ect), but I'm not
> sure what that knowledge adds to the poem.