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Subject:

Re: Water in TWL--why?

From:

Peter Montgomery <[log in to unmask]>

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T. S. Eliot Discussion forum.

Date:

Sat, 4 Aug 2007 22:37:54 -0800

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Can't say I've heard anything of English poetry which is really alive.
I rather liked this Canadian production. It has an interesting resonance
to it.

SHERRY OF THE NINETIES

by Peggy Fletcher


Dressed in blue jeans
and work shirt
her young stride
as tough and confident
as the boy
her father
wished for.

Hands trained
to carpenter skills-
she raises studs
instead of children.


At the end
of a long workday
she shakes loose
her pony tail
from the tight hold
of a hard hat
rubs muscles
she didn't know she had
strokes dark tanned hands
along each hip
and in response
to wolf whistles
spits wood dust
into the evening air.

Cheers,
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Gish" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Water in TWL--why?


> I agree that the essay is a reaction against the notion that there is
> "free" verse and an insistence that poetry must have a metric base
> because it is unavoidable. Unfortunately it seems to me that much of
> what gets published now is genuinely devoid of music--or good prose,
> which has music. I wonder if others share my sense that so much current
> American poetry is flat and self-absorbed? I find much of contemporary
> Irish, Scotttish, and English poetry far more verbally and musically new
> and exciting.
>
> But I may just not be reading enough or the right work.
> Nancy
>
> >>> Richard Seddon <[log in to unmask]> 08/04/07 12:44 PM >>>
> Nancy
>
> Poor writing on my part. I was trying to emphasize that poetry was much
> more than the literal meaning of words to TSE.
>
> Buried in this essay under TSE's normal waffling I find a hard reaction
> against "vers libre" as a cover for simply poor and lazy poetry.
>
> For a blunter and shorter essay on the same subject see Pound's "Vers
> Libre
> and Arnold Dolmetsch" in "Literary Essays of Ezra Pound" edited by none
> other than T. S. Eliot, New Direction Paperback, 1968 page 437. A
> quote:
> "Poets who are not interested in music are, or become, bad poets".
> Another
> quote from the ever sensitive Pound, "Poets who will not study music are
> defective".
>
> Poetry for both of these very good poets was simply much much more than
> the
> literal meaning of words strung together in lines and strophes.
>
> Back to singlets, doublets, and triplets. And, I am not talking about
> metre
> or children :>). Then back to Bras and Kets (and I'm not talking about
> underwear). It is either than or confirm the suspicion of a major
> professor
> Monday am as in "I knew you didn't read it, I bet you didn't read that
> simple article on symmetry/antisymmetry either, when you've read them
> come
> see me".
>
> Rick Seddon
> Portales, NM
>
>
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