Nancy Gish wrote:
> It does derive from Platonism, but the argument can be made--and has been by a wonderful Catholic Church historian friend of mine--that this has been a wrong direction in the Church because it is in contradiction to the Incarnation. Jesus did not deny his body in sacrificing it: he affirmed it in being born into flesh and in suffering as flesh.
> I think you would find it interesting to read--if you have not--Denise Levertov's late Catholic poems (she became, in her own words, increasingly orthodox), especially those in BREATHING THE WATER (New Directions, 1987). "On a Theme from Julian's Chapter XX" is about Jesus on the cross and the meaning she sees in his suffering as body.
> I am not Catholic; I just read these things and talk with those who are theologians. So my own view is not represented by this statement.
> My own view is shame on those Benedictine nuns for cruelty to children.
From the various ex-Catholics I know, the _practice_ of the Church in
the U.S. is (has been?) pretty much as Diana describes her experience. I
suppose there exist social histories tracing the development of this
"puritanical" thrust within the Roman Church. The Church in the U.S. was
for long an Irish Church -- and there's an interesting exchange between
Yeats & Pound. Pound had said something along the lines of Catholicism
being better than Babbittry and Yeats responded, "You don't understand,
in Ireland the Church IS Babbitt."
My friends who are still in the Church are all from the Libertarian
Theology trend -- I met them through Central-America solidarity work in