** High Priority **
Kathleen Raine and Craig Raine are both Scots who were born in England
(London / Durham). She's much older: born 1908 to his 1944. Scottish
texts tend to include one or the other or both, but none of the bio's I
find mention any relationship---though it sounds like a pretty common
Scottish name and they may well be.
The poems of Kathleen Raine in the collections I have include many
images of divinity but they do not seem Christian or traditional--more
Greek and mythic.
But I don't have a collection of just her.
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Kate -- I think Kathleen Raine got into religious verse in her later
years (or am I thinking of another woman poet?). Do you know if she is
related to Craig Raine, an arch-defender of TSE? -- Jim Loucks
James Loucks, Ph.D.
Ohio State University-Newark
1179 University Dr.
Newark, OH 43055-1797
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From: T. S. Eliot Discussion forum. on behalf of Kate Troy
Sent: Fri 09-Sep-05 7:59 PM
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Subject: Re: Echoes of Eliot
Wow, you guys are old, but then again, I'm 42 and sometimes find myself
considering the rapid passage of time. But, no matter. I look like 32.
Going to the gym every day does that. I'm still receptive to "new"
poets. I've suddenly become interested in a woman poet, which is
unusual for me (except for Sylvia). Her name is Kathleen Raine. She was
a great friend of the naturalist, Gavin Maxwell. In fact, it's been said
that she was deeply in love with him, despite the fact that he was gay.
Gavin loved her, but not romantically. Gavin lived much of his adult
life during the same time period as Eliot, although Eliot was born 25
years before him. They both died in the 1960's. Maxwell did not want
it known that he was a homosexual.
In a message dated 9/9/2005 7:12:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Jacek Niecko wrote:
> There was a time in my life when I was quite receptive to
> poetry and prose.
> Now, at 71, I find his opus arid and stilted.
I, at 75, find this true of his prose, but the occasional times
list when his poetry has been discussed have led me to a
Gerontion, TWL, & 4Q, and I find my interest in the poems
(though still not to the extent to which I respond to Jonson,
Pope, & Pound).