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MOBIRDS-L  September 2004, Week 4

MOBIRDS-L September 2004, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Smithville Lake (Missouri) gull ID - HEUGLIN'S GULL??

From:

Lynn Miller <[log in to unmask]>

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Date:

Mon, 27 Sep 2004 07:19:05 -0500

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Agree completely.

Lynn Miller
Lone Jack,Mo
Jackson Co

Quoting Deb Fortenberry Nichols <[log in to unmask]>:

> Mr. Silcock,
>
> We (the listserve members) would certainly be contacting the person (the
> antagonist, as you put it) directly, IF we knew who the collector was that
> took this gull. There has never been any answers to the questions that were
> asked (except vague and mysterious ones). Apparently, this person is too
> cowardly to come forward and admit that they took it, why they took it,
> where it was taken, what purpose it is being used for, etc. If someone feels
> strongly about their role in taking a bird for science, they should  explain
> their reasoning. Therefore, the listserve has no choice but to address the
> topic to the entire listserve populace. This is not a political issue--it
> affects the fact that many birders cannot view this bird--that affects me in
> a personal realm, not a political one.
>
> Debra Nichols
> Hannibal, MO
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Silcock" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 12:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Smithville Lake (Missouri) gull ID - HEUGLIN'S GULL??
>
>
> > Dave and anyone else still interested after the predictable appearance of
> > the collecting thread (I thought Paul McKenzie's comments were on the
> mark):
> > The suggestion of Heuglin's Gull (actually genetically a part of the
> Herring
> > Gull complex that breeds in north-central Siberia) by Martin Reid is
> > interesting and possibly correct, but I think unnecessary to explain the
> > features of the Smithville Gull. Parsimony would suggest a hybrid; I'm
> > really anxious to find out the results of in-hand forensic studies of the
> > specimen.
> > Ross
> >
> > PS: It's pointless to allow discussions of collecting, cats, and
> > guns/hunting to continue on these listservs; if folks are upset about any
> of
> > these topics from any point of view, please correspond privately with your
> > antagonist!  Anyway, politics aren't allowed, and that's all these topics
> > amount to.
> >
> >
> > Ross Silcock
> > P.O. Box 57
> > Tabor, Iowa, USA  51653
> > [log in to unmask]
> > New Zealand Land and Pelagic Bird Tours
> > www.rosssilcock.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Seibel" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 9:04 AM
> > Subject: Smithville Lake (Missouri) gull ID - HEUGLIN'S GULL??
> >
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