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MOBIRDS-L  September 2004, Week 4

MOBIRDS-L September 2004, Week 4

Subject:

Re: Accusatory comments

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Robert Fisher <[log in to unmask]>

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Robert Fisher <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:59:09 -0500

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Hi Lynn:

I think Deb Fortenberry Nichols' comments to Mr.Silcock go too far for an
on-list post when she accuses the collector of the gull as "cowardly" for
not stepping forward and stating his justification for doing it. Most people
already knew his identity, but his name has  properly been kept off the list
to avoid personal attacks and name calling. I understand that he appeared
and answered questions at the ASM fall meeting and apparently satisfied
quite a few folks down there that the deed was legit and scientifically
justified.

Two scientific justifications for collecting the gull have been given: (1)
to aide some Louisiana State University researchers in their study of
hybridization between Kelp and Herring Gulls on the Chandeleur Islands of
Louisiana in the Gulf of Mexico, and (2) to make the specimen a part of the
permanent collection of the Kansas University Museum of Natural History in
Lawrence, KS.  Defenders of the collection also wax eloquent about all sorts
of wonderful benefits that will accrue to birders. The specimen will be used
to make better field guides and will "provide valuable information on body
fat, stomach contents, molt, blood parasite levels, etc."  Researchers will
study the bird in future years at KU. We are also advised that taking the
gull does not matter to us; lots of nuisance gulls are taken at garbage
dumps, so why worry about one more? After all, most of us eat meat, what's
so different about the killing of one gull?, etc.

The collection of the gull has predictably aroused a strong negative
reaction from the birding community, but  there is nothing cowardly about
it. We are assured that the collector had proper federal state and county
park permits. His scientific justifications may or  may not have been mixed
with other motives, but in any event they are part of the equation.

Bottom line: The scientists know better. A valid collector's permit trumps
the birding community's protest. Those who disagree should be quiet.

Susan Gustafson, ASM's new President, informs me that, at the ASM falling
meeting,  the collector  "was not opposed to the suggestion that if a
similar situation should arise in the future, he could notify us that a
particular bird was a candidate for collection."  That's not exactly a firm
promise that it won't happen again. But at least it shows movement in the
direction of the sensibilities of the birding community.

I would like more assurance than that. I think everyone on this list has a
strong interest to know with some certainty  that if we report a rare bird
to the list, some guy from KU will not come into our state and bag it for
his museum. Perhaps that assurance will come. If not, we are not helpless,
but we may have to go off list to get results. Let's wait for an official
account of the ASM meeting before deciding what, if anything, to do next.
Edge Wade has also demonstrated impressive leadership and diplomatic skills.
Let's give her a chance to negotiate a settlement, if she is willing to do
it.

Whatever we do, let's eschew naming and personal accusation on list.

Bob Fisher
Independence, Missouri
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