Will's comment is in the subjunctive--"would have"; no one said
anything about any actual view of the early poems. And Neruda's
statement is about the way Eliot and Sartre write, so the point that
"base" things are represented seems no different from what you claim.
He does not say Eliot himself is base or repugnant, or, indeed, use the
word "base" at all. I do not understand your issue.
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Didn't the angel of death kick Neruda's bucket of life well before
Inventions of the March Hare?
I'm curious why Eliot is called base or repugnant, particularly if in
reference to writing he did not complete or publish? Or is it in
to poetry he did choose to present to the public? I don't think anything
Collected Poems is base, though base situations are presented in the
poetry; and claims against his unpublished poetry are weak at best.
At 10:54 AM 8/2/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Actually, Poems Written in Early Youth was what I had in mind.
>Eliot was lyrical before he was base.
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>If by "very early" you mean "Inventions of the March Hare," I think
>Neruda would have found it far more disturbing and repugnant, based on
>the reasons suggested here.
> >>> [log in to unmask] 08/02/04 9:24 AM >>>
>Too bad he never read any of Eliot's very early or later poetry. From
>what I've read of Neruda, he would have really liked Eliot's lyrical
>I'm not terribly surprised to hear such extreme remarks coming from
>Neruda, though. Thanks for sharing them!
> >>> [log in to unmask] 08/01/04 01:47PM >>>
>'When Fadayev declared in Wroclaw that, if hyenas used a pen or a
>they would write like T.S. Eliot or the novelist Sartre, I think that
>insult to the animal kingdom. I do not believe that creatures endowed
>intelligence and the power of expression would make such an obscene
>of the annihilation and repugnant vice, as those two so-called
>Western culture have done.' - Pablo Neruda