Good question, Ken. I would have thought they overlapped significantly, but I don't think Inventions was released until after Neruda's death.
I'm not calling Eliot base, sorry for the miscommunication. I would likewise not call him glorious. I was referring, more or less indirectly, to the tenor or topic of his poetry at the given time. Some of it was rather good, but in the Inventions period, much of it was lowest common denominator in its way. And so the choice of the word "base," which no doubt could have been improved upon.
Of course, as you know, nothing from Inventions of the March Hare is included in the Collected Poems (at least not as it is in Inventions). So I agree with your statement.
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Didn't the angel of death kick Neruda's bucket of life well before
Inventions of the March Hare?
I'm curious why Eliot is called base or repugnant, particularly if in
reference to writing he did not complete or publish? Or is it in reference
to poetry he did choose to present to the public? I don't think anything in
Collected Poems is base, though base situations are presented in the
poetry; and claims against his unpublished poetry are weak at best.
At 10:54 AM 8/2/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Actually, Poems Written in Early Youth was what I had in mind.
>Eliot was lyrical before he was base.
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>If by "very early" you mean "Inventions of the March Hare," I think
>Neruda would have found it far more disturbing and repugnant, based on
>the reasons suggested here.
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>Too bad he never read any of Eliot's very early or later poetry. From
>what I've read of Neruda, he would have really liked Eliot's lyrical
>I'm not terribly surprised to hear such extreme remarks coming from
>Neruda, though. Thanks for sharing them!
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>'When Fadayev declared in Wroclaw that, if hyenas used a pen or a
>they would write like T.S. Eliot or the novelist Sartre, I think that
>insult to the animal kingdom. I do not believe that creatures endowed
>intelligence and the power of expression would make such an obscene
>of the annihilation and repugnant vice, as those two so-called 'masters'
>Western culture have done.' - Pablo Neruda