Yes, it is fraught with questiona and few answers,
if any, but questions are always worth asking, even silly ones.
The only train that even halfway fits the situation, that
I know of, is The Orient Express. Is that mentoned in the Letters.
From: Jennifer Formichelli [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:43 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Luxor; and the transmutation of experience
Dear Peter et all,
First of all, I don't believe TSE was headed toward Luxor in 1911; I
believe he was still in France, and certainly his fellowship was for
study in Europe. However, that's just a guess based on the fact that
I've never heard anything about it. Who is the author of this letter?
Can you quote exactly? (By the way, I also don't recall such a trip in
Valerie Eliot's brief timeline in her Letters.)
As for the connection with Pound, TSE did not even meet Pound until
1914, and even after that called his verse (a statement he later
regretted) 'touchingly incompetent'.
As for the rest, if the man was on the train the man was on the train.
Can't a man just sit on a train, if he was sitting on it? Why does this
have to be found somewhere in TSE's work ? He himself remarked rather
early on on that separation between the man who suffers and the mind
On Tuesday, May 25, 2004, at 03:24 PM, Peter Montgomery wrote:
> Would there be any connection with Pound's
> Egyptian poetry and the generation thereof?
> Didn't someone do the translations for him?
> Could the reference have been metaphorical?
> What is the significance of Luxor? Where might
> it have been or be reflected in Eliot's poetry?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rickard A. Parker [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 12:03 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Luxor?
> One of my correspondents has a photostat copy of a letter where the
> author describes a meeting with Eliot in 1911 on a train to Luxor,
> Does anyone know anything more about the Egypt trip or anything that
> TSE may have written about it? I knew of the 1911 summer trip to
> Germany and Italy but this trip to Egypt was a surprise.
> Since the letter was written in 1972 there may be reasonable doubt
> about the 1911 date. Is Eliot known to have visited Egypt at some
> other time?
> Rick Parker
> P.S. - I wonder if Cricklewood or Luxor made the bigger impression.