At 08:25 PM 6/27/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Enough, Peter. Why do you think your foolishly-written attacks on
>Nancy are of any interest to others? I'm sick of you putting the rest
>of us in the position of being a witness to your stupid and
>self-inflated nastiness. It is because Will praised you that you are
>annoyed that Nancy has joined the conversation?
Sorry you see it that way. You could drop your last sentence above and as
well start, "Enough, Nancy." Or "Enough, Carrol."
"Joining the conversation" seems euphemistic for what Nancy and Carrol do.
Carrol's ridiculous remark about Christianity and Nancy's perverted
response, camouflaged as intellectual curiosity and as unnatural as
anything you will see dressed to pass for civil discourse, to Will Gray's
polite reply to Carrol, simply repeats a pattern seen innumerable times on
this list. Carrol at least does not hide the fact that he is not interested
in TSE's poetry enough to really study or honestly represent it. That
doesn't stop him from chattering on about it (lengthy posts from someone
with nothing to say, as it were), but at least he's announced that he is
not to be taken seriously, and for that much he is to be commended.
Out of all that dissonance, to pick Peter as a point of entry for
scolding........I'm disappointed. Had the obnoxious remark been instead an
equally unjudicious remark about some other religion, I suspect the
outpouring would have been deafening. Do you think?
At any rate, Eliot was a professing Christian, was he not? It seems to me
that someone who proposes to study his poetry in view of that is proposing
a potentially worthwhile study. Instead of the knee jerk response to the
word "Christianity" (we all already know, don't we, that Eliot studied
Eastern philosophies?) so often seen on this list, what harm could there be
in actually studying the relationship? Why is the first response always to
try to diminish, with flourishes of academic superiority, the worth of such
a study or of Eliot's religion? I think I know, and I see nothing wrong
with calling these attempts what they are.