I'm not sure which text you mean, but there have been discussions of
Versailles linked with the "wilderness of mirrors," for example. I am more
interested in Eliot's interest in Keynes's ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES
OF THE WAR, which he recommended to his mother in Jan. 1920 as an
On "liberal," by the way: "My own views are Liberal and strongly opposed
to the Government in almost everything; but I cannot regard this present
expression of labour discontent without grave apprehension and distrust."
---Eliot to John Quinn, 28 September 1919.
No one, I am sure, regards this as having anything to do with the
conservative religious position of the Eliot of the 20s. I simply pointed to it
as an example of the fact that he made overtly political statements.
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I'm sorry to be pedantic but what do you mean by 'images'? What images?
That they were 'evoked by Versailles' in your opinion, do they also evoke
I don't see the poem this way; but there is a piece written about it,
which I shall look up the details of if anyone is interested. Perhaps
Nancy already knows of this one? It may have appeared (many years ago)
Notes and Queries.
On Thursday, May 1, 2003, at 06:34 PM, Nancy Gish wrote:
> I think many images in "Gerontion" are evoked by responses to
> and to the idea that it made things worse and would create chaos.
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> Subject: Re: History's cunning passages
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> Nancy Gish wrote:
>> I think, however, that it matters that he changed "nature"
>> to "history" at the time he did (sometime between the summer of 1919
>> when the first draft was written and 1920 when the poem was first
>> published). He was working on the war reparations and reading about the
>> treaty of Versailles.
> Dear Nancy,
> "Matters" how and to what? History came to Eliot's mind? Readers
> being pointed to Versailles? Matters to an account of re-writing?