“My second point is about the propagation of the idea
that Hamlet is indecisive, which has appeared in
several posts. What evidence to support such a claim?
It seems to me that Hamlet has sure enough made up his
mind; the problem is rather than he cannot act on his
decision. To be indecisive and to be incapable of
action are not the same. Hamlet's mind is made up on
one thing--Claudius--before he even sees the ghost.”
That was very impressive. Hamlet, I understand, is a
very intelligent character unlike Prufrock who seems
to be a surreal kind of a person. If Hamlet
hesitates, I think it is because he knows how powerful
and clever Claudius is. I feel that Hamlet ought to
be seen (as any dramatic character should be) from the
play’s perspective; confusions as to his ‘madness’ and
‘procrastination’ arise when we look outward of it.
(In fact, one can point out many ‘evidences’ for it
when one misreads the play). Hamlet is controlled by
the conditions of the play and it makes saner reading
to read the play in its context.
In Prufrock, Eliot consciously tried to portray a
muddled up personality, to express a typical state of
mind of the modern age, and I don’t see anything
remarkable to compare him with Hamlet.
--- Jennifer Formichelli <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Listers,
> I have two points upon this thread. First, Michael,
> in response to
> > Don't forget, Hamy calls Polonius a fool,
> > Prufrock calls himself ALMOST a fool.
> > This is because Prufrock is switching from Hamlet
> to Lear. . .
> > Michael
> I should very much like to know where Lear calls
> himself a fool. This
> seems to me rather unlikely. The fool nearly
> outright calls him a fool,
> and Lear threatens him with a whip; his speech to
> Gloucester about 'the
> great stage of fools' does not appear to include
> either of them; and
> even in his apology to Cordelia he does no such
> thing. Anyone
> interested might read Empon's excellent essay, in
> Structure of Complex
> Words, called 'Fool in Lear'.
> My second point is about the propagation of the idea
> that Hamlet is
> indecisive, which has appeared in several posts.
> What evidence to
> support such a claim? It seems to me that Hamlet has
> sure enough made
> up his mind; the problem is rather than he cannot
> act on his decision.
> To be indecisive and to be incapable of action are
> not the same.
> Hamlet's mind is made up on one
> thing--Claudius--before he even sees
> the ghost. Hearing the tale of his father's murder,
> he replies: 'Oh my
> prophetic soul. My uncle!'
> And for that matter, if J. Alfred Prufrock
> (presuming that he is the
> speaker of the poem, which is not completely clear)
> is indecisive, I
> should like to know about what.
> Yours, Jennifer
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