In a message dated 2/17/03 11:33:34 PM EST, [log in to unmask] writes:

> The question is not what Eliot "meant"

Well, since I'm interested in thinking about what Eliot meant, I think I'll
sign off of this thread.

> but what actual experience he was describing.

But before I go, here's a clue: Eliot DID mean something by referring to an
ape (no-neck) and a giraffe (long-neck) in the same stanza. It's NOT just
about an "actual experience he was describing". And the ape/giraffe imagery
is NOT just a coincidence.

-- Steve --