In a message dated 2/17/03 4:03:14 PM EST, [log in to unmask] writes:
> As long as you grasp that:
> Time present and time past
> Are both perhaps present in time future,
> -- more 4Q quotes --
> You don't see them, you don't -- but I see them:
> they are hunting me down, I must move on...
> We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
> . . .
> He who was living is now dead
> . . .
> Wavering between the profit and the loss
> . . .
> There should be not much problems
> with "Sweeney and his Birds".
Gee, thanks. After all these years, I finally understand everything in
"Sweeney Among the Nightingales".
But, if it's not too much trouble, could you explain how the following images
tie together into a coherent poem?:
"Apeneck Sweeney. . .
Swelling to maculate giraffe."
An ape has basically no neck and a giraffe has a huge neck. Does this bother
"toward the River Plate,"
Explain why "the River Plate"?
Why "the shrunken seas"?
Who is "the person in the Spanish cape"?
Why the recurring images of coffee/brown_color (e.g., "Overturns a
coffee-cup", "silent man in mocha brown", "vertebrate in brown")?
Who is "The silent man in mocha brown" and why is he silent?
Why, specifically, is the waiter bringing in "oranges/
Bananas figs and hothouse grapes"?
Why call out "hothouse" when referring to the grapes?
Who is "Rachel née Rabinovitch"? Explain the significance of Rachael's maiden
name ("Rabinovitch"). How does this tie into the rest of the poem?
Why is Rachael tearing "at the grapes with murderous paws"?
Who is "the man with heavy eyes"?
Why "a golden grin"?
Who is "the host" and who is "someone indistinct"?
And then, how so all these images from the Sweeney part of the poem tie into
the Agamemnon murder? Oh, yes, and what is "The Convent of the Sacred Heart"?
Other than that, you've answered my life-long questions about this poem by
quoting Eliot's other poems.
-- Steve --