Attributing a common phrase to Democrats IS a generalization. You
frequently do such attributions. And you frequently personalize. None of
these are valid arguments. Nor is your frequent addressing of personal
remarks like "I merely follow your example" in relation to words like
"insensitive" and "vindictiveness" to me individually. I never said those
words. You do respond personally and angrily at persons, and I think that
is pointless and unkind.
Date sent: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:55:35 -0600
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From: "Richard Seddon" <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: Small correction
I made no generalization. Your claim as to generalizations is only to
defame my points. Please do not try to attribute personal vindictiveness
to me for pointing out insensitive remarks on the part of others. I
merely follow your example.
The last time I heard that term used in the national press was by a
democrat party operative who said it about one of Clinton's alleged girl
friends. What is "outrageous" about correct attribution. An attribution
that you agree to in your post.
If the comment had been "ghetto trash" would not that have elicited
outrage from many on the list including myself.
I guess the judges cannot be judged
I live in a mobile home not a glass house.
McIntosh, NM, USA
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From: "Nancy Gish - Women's Studies" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:13 AM
Subject: re: Small correction
> Dear Rick,
> I am sorry, but it is absolutely outrageous to attribute the term
> "trailer trash" to Democrats. It is an unfortunate epithet--hateful
> actually, but it is one I had heard long before Clinton and not from
> Democrats, who in fact largely appeal to the working class. I have no
> idea why you continually make these kinds of generally derogatory
> generalizations either, but if you object to them, you need a house that
> is not glass. Best, Nancy
> On 15 May 2002, at 8:56, Richard Seddon <[log in to unmask]>
> The term "trailer trash" acquired a certain novelty during Bill> Clinton's
> election campaign.
> Thousands of Americans are able to find their part of the> American dream
> through the purchase of a mobile home. They are trash only to the> political
> spinners of the Democrat party. Many Americans, not yet able> to purchase a
> home, are able to afford to rent an inexpensive mobile home and> thereby
> enjoy living in a separate dwelling from their neighbors and> perhaps have a
> small garden. Many, rightly, take enormous pride in their> accomplishment.
> They too are trash only to political operatives. Your term callously
> dismisses their pride. Your implication that Eliot and others are to
> be condemned for their depictions of these people is elitist in the
> extreme. Do Sweeneys exist. You better believe it. They build your
> roads. They grow your food. They carry your trash. Many proudly go
> home to a mobile home and putter in their garden, talk to their
> neighbor friends across the fence and watch the birds. They are a
> fitting subject for the finest poetry. Rick Seddon McIntosh, NM,
> USA Carol Cox wrote in part:
> > I would gloss "sort of people" with "trailer trash" -- and this> attitude
> > is one of the more unpleasant features of both Yeats and Eliot.> Stevens
> > too for that matter.
> > Carrol Cox